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	<title>Comments on: Substance 4.3 official release</title>
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	<description>Leaving no pixel behind</description>
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		<title>By: Gili</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>Gili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the mouse-hover animation looks very nice if you move slowly from one component to another, but it is awful if you&#039;re moving quickly across multiple components. In the latter case the animation is distracting... maybe even choppy.

Please take a look and try making the animation more robust for both use-cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the mouse-hover animation looks very nice if you move slowly from one component to another, but it is awful if you&#8217;re moving quickly across multiple components. In the latter case the animation is distracting&#8230; maybe even choppy.</p>
<p>Please take a look and try making the animation more robust for both use-cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Roadmap for Substance 5</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>Roadmap for Substance 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] release 4.3 of Substance look-and-feel available last Monday (and a few patch releases to address bugs since then), it is time to think about the next release. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] release 4.3 of Substance look-and-feel available last Monday (and a few patch releases to address bugs since then), it is time to think about the next release. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kossouho</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kossouho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
First, as usual, you did a great job in Substance, congratulations !
Then, just a tiny visual inconsistency in the Flamingo Ribbon screenshot :
The &quot;File&quot; menu, is too close from the separator : maybe you should add 2 pixels to the gap, to match the general text layout.
Once again, really great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
First, as usual, you did a great job in Substance, congratulations !<br />
Then, just a tiny visual inconsistency in the Flamingo Ribbon screenshot :<br />
The &#8220;File&#8221; menu, is too close from the separator : maybe you should add 2 pixels to the gap, to match the general text layout.<br />
Once again, really great job.</p>
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		<title>By: Nilo J. Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilo J. Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work!

Nilo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work!</p>
<p>Nilo</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill Grouchnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill Grouchnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikita,

It&#039;s not really my place to recommend a framework for building complex applications. I know that JIDE has quite a few big customers, and some of their products are specifically targeting complex architectures. I think that you would be better asking on their forums. Also, note that Flamingo does not aim too high - it just fills the currently void gap in the components that it provides.

There should be no issues with non-component based libraries such as JFreeChart, and Substance provides APIs to query the current color settings to be used to create consistent graphs, charts and other application specific visuals. And if there are any Substance-specific issues, i will be more than happy to hear about them in the project forums, mailing lists, issue tracker or a private e-mail.

Thanks for considering Substance for your project. 
Kirill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikita,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really my place to recommend a framework for building complex applications. I know that JIDE has quite a few big customers, and some of their products are specifically targeting complex architectures. I think that you would be better asking on their forums. Also, note that Flamingo does not aim too high &#8211; it just fills the currently void gap in the components that it provides.</p>
<p>There should be no issues with non-component based libraries such as JFreeChart, and Substance provides APIs to query the current color settings to be used to create consistent graphs, charts and other application specific visuals. And if there are any Substance-specific issues, i will be more than happy to hear about them in the project forums, mailing lists, issue tracker or a private e-mail.</p>
<p>Thanks for considering Substance for your project.<br />
Kirill</p>
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		<title>By: Nikita Ivanov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikita Ivanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiril,
Thanks for the quick turn around. Any recommendation on frameworks like JIDE we can use? I&#039;ve used JIDE 3-4 years ago and it was just an &#039;ok&#039; experience. I looked at Flamingo but it lacks some of the window managment feature we would like to have. Any recommendations?

Also, we are planing on using JFreeChart and JGrpath. Any known issues with these frameworks (I mean the basic usage of them w/your L&amp;F)?

Thanks,
Nikita Ivanov.
GridGain Systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiril,<br />
Thanks for the quick turn around. Any recommendation on frameworks like JIDE we can use? I&#8217;ve used JIDE 3-4 years ago and it was just an &#8216;ok&#8217; experience. I looked at Flamingo but it lacks some of the window managment feature we would like to have. Any recommendations?</p>
<p>Also, we are planing on using JFreeChart and JGrpath. Any known issues with these frameworks (I mean the basic usage of them w/your L&amp;F)?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nikita Ivanov.<br />
GridGain Systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill Grouchnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill Grouchnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikita,

The only known issue is the one documented on the &lt;a href=&quot;https://substance-jide.dev.java.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Substance JIDE&lt;/a&gt; main page. There were a few JIDE-related issues in the past, and those have been fixed. If you run into an exception, i will be happy to fix it. Note that some JIDE components might not be consistently skinned by Substance, as i don&#039;t provide custom UI delegates for the JIDE components (yet). 

Thanks
Kirill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikita,</p>
<p>The only known issue is the one documented on the <a href="https://substance-jide.dev.java.net/" rel="nofollow">Substance JIDE</a> main page. There were a few JIDE-related issues in the past, and those have been fixed. If you run into an exception, i will be happy to fix it. Note that some JIDE components might not be consistently skinned by Substance, as i don&#8217;t provide custom UI delegates for the JIDE components (yet). </p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Kirill</p>
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		<title>By: Nikita Ivanov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikita Ivanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiril,
We are planning to use JIDE Framework and aboslutely want to use your L&amp;F. Are there any known compatibility issues with JIDE and your L&amp;F. 

Great work, btw. Love the dark skins. 

Best,
Nikita Ivanov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiril,<br />
We are planning to use JIDE Framework and aboslutely want to use your L&amp;F. Are there any known compatibility issues with JIDE and your L&amp;F. </p>
<p>Great work, btw. Love the dark skins. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Nikita Ivanov.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Schauder</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>Jens Schauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: &quot;Jens, this issue should be fixed in the 4.3_02 release.&quot;

Awesome. You sure live up to your own rules (http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=50)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;Jens, this issue should be fixed in the 4.3_02 release.&#8221;</p>
<p>Awesome. You sure live up to your own rules (<a href="http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=50" rel="nofollow">http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=50</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill Grouchnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill Grouchnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens, this issue should be fixed in the 4.3_02 release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens, this issue should be fixed in the 4.3_02 release.</p>
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