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	<title>Comments on: First look at Nimbus and &#8220;Java SE 6 Update N&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Leaving no pixel behind</description>
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		<title>By: Nimbus is getting a new home</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimbus is getting a new home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already mentioned that the upcoming Nimbus look-and-feel is not being hosted in a usual location (javax.swing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: And the longest JRE class name is...</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>And the longest JRE class name is...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] i was looking through the folder structure of the latest Mustang Update N, a thought occurred to me to look inside the rt.jar. There are some interesting things there, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kirill Grouchnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill Grouchnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - my bad. Those are marked as disabled in the code, but the caption texts were not updated. Apologies for a misleading comment, i&#039;ve updated the blog entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8211; my bad. Those are marked as disabled in the code, but the caption texts were not updated. Apologies for a misleading comment, i&#8217;ve updated the blog entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bair</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kirill,

Unfortunately, the way the JCP works, we don&#039;t have a choice on location. It cannot be in javax.swing until Java 7. But the choice was made to push out Nimbus now. It will be moved to javax.swing.plaf.nimbus in Java 7. We probably will move Nimbus out of swing.swing and put it in com.sun.java.swing.plaf.nimbus for security related reasons (sun.swing is treated differently than com.sun in the Java plugin).

Fortunately, it isn&#039;t all that bad. UIManager.getInstalledLookAndFeels() will return Nimbus as one of the look and feels. If you just iterate over the list and choose the LAF with the name &quot;Nimbus&quot;, then you&#039;ll get the right one, both now and in Java 7.

The people who have to worry about the change are going to be 3rd party component authors. We&#039;re working with JIDE now, and will be working with any interested 3rd party component authors to make it as smooth as possible.

Cheers
Richard

Oh. We haven&#039;t seen the bug you are seeing with disabled checkboxes? Can you send me the code to have a look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kirill,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the way the JCP works, we don&#8217;t have a choice on location. It cannot be in javax.swing until Java 7. But the choice was made to push out Nimbus now. It will be moved to javax.swing.plaf.nimbus in Java 7. We probably will move Nimbus out of swing.swing and put it in com.sun.java.swing.plaf.nimbus for security related reasons (sun.swing is treated differently than com.sun in the Java plugin).</p>
<p>Fortunately, it isn&#8217;t all that bad. UIManager.getInstalledLookAndFeels() will return Nimbus as one of the look and feels. If you just iterate over the list and choose the LAF with the name &#8220;Nimbus&#8221;, then you&#8217;ll get the right one, both now and in Java 7.</p>
<p>The people who have to worry about the change are going to be 3rd party component authors. We&#8217;re working with JIDE now, and will be working with any interested 3rd party component authors to make it as smooth as possible.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Richard</p>
<p>Oh. We haven&#8217;t seen the bug you are seeing with disabled checkboxes? Can you send me the code to have a look?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill Grouchnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill Grouchnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jasper,

Wouldn&#039;t that be very problematic, potentially breaking applications referencing the sun.swing package? Or perhaps the sun.swing will be just an extension of the new (in JDK 7.0) javax.swing one? And i&#039;ve already posted a copule of stack traces on Swing &amp; AWT forum.

Thanks, Kirill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jasper,</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that be very problematic, potentially breaking applications referencing the sun.swing package? Or perhaps the sun.swing will be just an extension of the new (in JDK 7.0) javax.swing one? And i&#8217;ve already posted a copule of stack traces on Swing &#038; AWT forum.</p>
<p>Thanks, Kirill</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.pushing-pixels.org/?p=146&#038;cpage=1#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome to post bugs as comments on my blog and I will file bugs for them if they are new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome to post bugs as comments on my blog and I will file bugs for them if they are new.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason it is not in javax.swing is that would then be new API which can not be added in a update release. I hope that we can move it to javax.swing for Java 7.</description>
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		<title>By: pavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krill,
 I hope u r given a chance to contribute and use ur Swing expertise in making Nimbus a great LookNFeel...</description>
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 I hope u r given a chance to contribute and use ur Swing expertise in making Nimbus a great LookNFeel&#8230;</p>
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